Journalist and author George Packer joined CMES Director Nader Hashemi for a Majlis roundtable discussion on what the COVID-19 pandemic has exposed within American society and the U.S. political system. He also touches on his relationship with the late U.S. diplomat Richard Holbrooke, the subject of Packer's acclaimed biography, Our Man: Richard Holbrooke and the End of the American Century (2019).