Bury interviews long time educator C.L. Harkins former Superintendent for the Arizona State Board of Education. Harkins first describes his experience with his own elementary and high school schooling in Hewitt Texas where he attended a one-room school from which he graduated in 1925. He then recounts his attempts to find and finish his college degree in engineering. After numerous courses at East Texas State South Texas State Teachers' College and University of California at Fullerton he then finished his teaching degree at University of Texas Austin. He shares the reasons for his arrival in Flagstaff and his early teaching experience at McNary and gives a detailed account of the political administrative and legal (and curriculum) aspects of his work with local state county and national Departments of Education (as well as the Arizona Education Association and the Arizona School Board Association) working with such individuals as Herman Hendrix Willis Easley John Russell C. Louise Barringer J. Morris Richards Bill Harliss Ned Hill L.D. Clemenson "Skipper" Dick and Barry Goldwater.